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Jul 4, 2008 14:45:17 GMT
Post by chirperfan on Jul 4, 2008 14:45:17 GMT
i got a demo of a "how to stop your bird from biting"video yesterday,and i tried it.it didnt work.now keety(my budgy)is terrified of me.does anyone know why this didnt work?
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heres the video linkhttp://www.birdtricks.com/PowerPause/
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Jul 4, 2008 17:26:35 GMT
Post by Scully on Jul 4, 2008 17:26:35 GMT
That was really interesting to watch, maybe you just need to pratice
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Jul 4, 2008 20:22:59 GMT
Post by chirperfan on Jul 4, 2008 20:22:59 GMT
maybe,but ive done it for about 2 hours today,and shes terrified of me.maybe i need one of those real clickers.ive been using a jar lid.
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Jul 5, 2008 10:48:43 GMT
Post by Berserka on Jul 5, 2008 10:48:43 GMT
I'd never recommend any of these type of training methods for a budgie. Budgies scare rather easily I've found.
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Jul 5, 2008 14:11:08 GMT
Post by chirperfan on Jul 5, 2008 14:11:08 GMT
okay.what was happening was she would close her eyes when i got near her as if perparing to die. maybe thats why it didnt work.she wasnt aggressive enough.
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Jul 6, 2008 6:31:45 GMT
Post by Berserka on Jul 6, 2008 6:31:45 GMT
You have to win the trust of a budgie. You can't train trust. You have to be her friend before she will even consider being trusting of you. I'm afraid at a year old I would not even try it myself.
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Jul 6, 2008 12:56:40 GMT
Post by Billie on Jul 6, 2008 12:56:40 GMT
Ohh dear, sorry to hear you are having a bad time. I don't fancy trying this sort of thing myself either. My gang are a bit nippy but sometimes you need to have a look at what was happening at the time that may have made them bite. Harry for example can and will step up IF he is in the mood, he also closes his eyes to ignore me. I think he is convinced he is invisible when he does this If I put my finger under him after he's done any of his 'not in the mood' acts then although he steps up he will then munch me. If you look at it from his point of view, I take it to be a case of I warned you I wasn't in the mood and will bite you if you ignore the ' off' warnings. Also the other concern I have is that they associate my fingers with food. I tend to hold food for them carrots and the like, so if I smell of anything like that then I think they get confused and try to chomp me too. ALso if fingers always bring food then maybe they think fingers are food too. Not entirely found a solution but if you move slowly when you put your hand in the cage and put it near them but not touching them and let them come to you, then it builds trust. Go slow for a bit and offer food treats from the outside of the cage for a few days and then your bird should come round. Talk and move slowly round them and they shouldn't have a reason to freak out. Good luck Billie PS I've been trying to finger tame Blue who was an older bird past first molt, since we got her 2 years ago she is getting ther, but these things do take a long time. Take it slow and it should come in the end.
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Jul 6, 2008 19:50:12 GMT
Post by Scully on Jul 6, 2008 19:50:12 GMT
you dont really need a clicker, any sound would be just the same if you were consistant. For a budgie a clicker maybe too loud, and your voice would be much better. If you can make a soft click sound, its the same as using a clicker. Its not the object or sound but the constant same sound. Even a constant 'good boy' would have the same effect. Getting the words/click/phrase at the right time, is the key.
Fot instance my first dog, could lie down to a whistle at eight weeks old. I started training him before he could open his eyes. The sound of the 'lie down whistle was gently and constantly put to him, by putting my finger on his head, and pushing his head down gently , whistling at the same time. as he grew , it became my whole hand, gently pushing his body down. I did this every day, a least 4/6 times a day..
Use the same idea as the video, but try with your voice.
While you are in the room, doing anything, talk to him, you dont have to be as his cage. Birds start to feel at ease when they can hear your voice at a distance, then when you are close, its not new to them.
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Jul 6, 2008 21:57:03 GMT
Post by chirperfan on Jul 6, 2008 21:57:03 GMT
ok.so use my voice instead of clicker.
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Jul 23, 2008 19:26:46 GMT
Post by matthaismouse on Jul 23, 2008 19:26:46 GMT
I personally found reading to them with the door open helps them learn your not there to harm them and they eventually either climb out or they come close to you, at that point slowly raise a finger near the cage and let them investigate it. than after doing this for a while put your hand in and try see if they step onto it, if they dont try again after, but every time you try reassure them and speak softly to them, maybe even try making a chirping kind of noise.
I had real difficulty with kiki and bobby when i got them but after a while they both especially kiki just started to love coming to me and sitting on my shoulder.
Hope this helps you and anyone else in the same situation as you.
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Jul 27, 2008 15:30:52 GMT
Post by Blaine on Jul 27, 2008 15:30:52 GMT
I always never really invaded Juniper's area. He gets really territorial when I go in his cage to clean water or to change a toy out. I stood very far back and kind of did my own thing. It took a while. I was probably sitting for maybe 45 minutes, so I would recommend bringing an ipod, or a book to read. Eventually Juniper's curiosity got the best of him and he came out. Now when he came out I didn't rush up really fast and get all over him, I kind of sat back and kept doing my own little thing. He crept closer, and closer, and eventually I moved a bit. I didn't go fast, just slow and kind of eased into his space. Then I finished doing whatever I was doing closer to him. If I was a predetor I would have already tried to pounce, so Juniper cautiosly crept closer. I slowly moved, and he got scared.
It took hi9m maybe, 5 or 6 tries of this before he finally decided to jemp on my finger. It's not fast, but it worked for me.
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